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by victoria99

9 months ago

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I have been talking to this man who is in Spain for two months,  now kind of serious as you can get on chat..  I thought he had it all together but his son became ill and I found out that there is no insurance.  So all of his products  came in, he had to use the business money to pay for his son's on going hospital bills, its been over two weeks now and his son needs surgery.  His family is astranged from him, I can't get an answer why.  So there is no money for surgery.  So he finds out I own half a boat.  This boat means the world to me.  He is almost demanding (well, he is begging) that I sell my half of the boat to help pay for his son's surgery.  All I know is that his wife died in am automobile accident 3 years ago and something happened and his familly came down on him.  I don't care how mad I was at my brother or sisters I would ask them for help.  He won't.  What do you think?

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    ModeratorErika replied 9 months ago:

    Victoria99 I am saddened to hear about the state of your friends son. Sometimes dear as we think with our hearts - which is not a bad thing. He have given you all these heart wrenching scenarios and of course you are wondering what kind of person would you be to say no.

    I do not for one moment think that his son is not sick, but I always believe that there are options. For example according to an article I read online, "If you pay social security, healthcare in Spain is free or low cost, (families and retirees are also included). Like many countries however, the health service in Spain has a waiting lists to see specialists and for non-urgent operations."

    Another article I found states, "Spain enjoys a national healthcare system that provides health services to all Spanish residents. Since the system is based on universal healthcare, non-residents and tourists (and even people living in the country illegally) are never denied treatment. Sometimes non-resident patients are charged (either directly or via their national social security system) for treatment, although this is often not the case with basic services."

    You can read the entire article - http://www.spanish-town-guides.com/Healthcare_Spain.htm

    According to your question he is business owner - he may of have had the option to pay into the social security fund to secure health care for himself and his son. My condolences for the passing of his wife - but Victoria when we decide to have children (which it sounds like they did it the traditional way), we get married, by a home, and make sure the kids are covered. I don't believe you should sacrafice something you clearly enjoy (the boat) to pay for this surgery unless you feel it is the right thing to do.

    I am of the opinion that is inappropriate for such a request to be discussed when you two have not actually met in person. You want to protect yourself against anything. Not saying that he is a bad person but someone the kind are preyed upon.

    I hope this helps you make a decision that you could live with and have a great day.

    ~Erika

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    victoria99 replied 9 months ago:

    Thank you, I think you are right.   I will look into this like you said.  I just think its way to early to ask someone for help, when you haven't even seen them face to face.  Thanks for the link.

     

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    laura15 replied 9 months ago:

    I would be really careful on this one because the way you were describing it made me think of a scammer who is just out to get some money. I've run into a ton of these when I've gone looking for a roomate and they always present a great story and they seem to come from spain too...

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    victoria99 replied 9 months ago:

    You made me think of the one video he sent me, it looked read, and had a heavy accent.  Thanks, for the info.  I haven't heard from him since Monday which is auful strange.  And he talks to me at one o'clock there, which is strange.  Why would he wait until one am to talk to me.  In one pic I seen a ring on his ring finger.  He says he always has told me things, but I have kept every Im or mail and he has not told me this.  On different things.  But the times he reaches me is really strange to me.  Thanks.  I think I will try to look some more.  How many people from the US that is in Spain for four months call your mother, mum?

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    ModeratorB2121 replied 9 months ago:

    Victoria,

    I would advise you to stop communicating with this person...why? I recently met a woman at a dinner party ..Wow! One would think 'this guy' would change his script...but its great he has not, so we can put the pieces together like I have and we all are...For starters, I agree with Erika and Laura...

    The story was the same exact story you have outlined..except he was from Spain (his name was Michael..I am sure this much he changes, and must keep a log to keep up) Smile Anyhow, he 'slipped' at one point and said he was in the U.K...When she called him out on this, he became belligerent, and was very adamant he never said so, like yourself, she had the emails or chat sessions to prove. She has some wealth, which she shared with him. A day later same story...his son needed surgery, his wife died in an auto accident...etc., She followed her instincts however and he got nothing.

    The next day, he accused her of  'toying' with his feelings...blamed her for everything..and then started being cheeky..called her 'fat' a 'loser' and you name it.....I have no doubt it is the same person...What a small world. You don't know this man...you hang on to that boat...All the makings of a psychopathic, cold, calculating, manipulative narcissist. She met him on a dating site..did you? 

    Yes, like Canada most European countries, including Spain have a socialized health care system. This means especially a young child would be treated no matter what..no questions asked. I would not waste anymore time with this guy. Good luck, and please keep us posted ok? You posted  because (without quite aware of it..your subconscious and gut feelings felt something (many things actually) were off.  Bottom line? no money, no address, no phone  # etc...no personal anything...and again..I would recommend severing all 'ties' with him. Take care Vicky!

    Dr. J

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    victoria99 replied 9 months ago:

    YES, he was on OKCupid and I found him on several other dating sights.  He never tells me anything about his family except he is not talking to his family.  He would tell me he had told me things and I would look it up and he hadnt.  Thats when I figured out he must have told some other women.  And he said he was in NY before he went to Spain.  I looked it up and told him.  He took his picture off of his profile after that.  Its strange what times he gets a hold of me like 1:00am in Spain.  So weird.  He was after any money I could get on my car, home, ect.  Thanks for telling me.  I really needed to know this.  Like I said the video he sent me was like he was reading it, and had a thick accent.  I looked up his e-mail address and also found that his e-mail address had a scam on it.  Just wish I could warn others.  He is good looking.  ha ha   I will block everything.    Thank you so much.

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    victoria99 replied 9 months ago:

    I looked him up on his e-mail address and it came up that he was a scammer.  I told him I had seen him on several dating sights.  That disappeared.  I looked up his profile in NY, the next day the picture of him was gone.  I was being scammed.  He told me he used to live in the UK too.  I know all of this matches.  Thank you so much Dr. J.  Right now he is using OKCupid and going by morgangee69.   Thank you so very much.  I know its the same guy.  Thank You

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    victoria99 replied 9 months ago:

    sorry its morgangee89

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    victoria99 replied 9 months ago:

    mooreryan1094 is the sons

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    victoria99 replied 9 months ago:

    the picture on the OKCupid is not his real picture.  He is really from Nigeria.  He has been going on Morgangee89 since 2008.  He tries to call me all the time.  The last time I talked to him he just yelled at me over and over.  Right now he is going by Morgan Gabriel Moore, but he has been using other names.  Its really sad.  But he was still after my boat.  He used everything he could use, and said he didnt have money so he had to take his son out of the hospital.  He said he even didnt have a car now.  Just women, please watch out for him.  He is really good.  And has many pictures of this other mans picture he is using.  Just be careful.  I guess there is a lot of scammers out there.  And I got one right off the bat.  Thanks for your help.

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    NullNull replied 7 months ago:

    AAAHAHAHAHA... classic scam, I'm glad you found this out.  I just noticed that as I started typing this reply.  I'm very happy that you figured this out.  A little bit of research can go a long way.  Don't be a victim.  Very happy this had a good ending!

    Nigerian scammers are very common.  If the guy bothers you again, tell you have been recording him and if he calls again you're going to take all the evidence to the FBI.  He'll stop.

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    NullNull replied 7 months ago:

    AAAHAHAHAHA... classic scam, I'm glad you found this out.  I just noticed that as I started typing this reply.  I'm very happy that you figured this out.  A little bit of research can go a long way.  Don't be a victim.  Very happy this had a good ending!

    Nigerian scammers are very common.  If the guy bothers you again, tell you have been recording him and if he calls again you're going to take all the evidence to the FBI.  He'll stop.

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